How to Meditate

How to learn to meditate using this website

Two ways to learn –

— Many people enjoy meditating along with our guided meditation CDs and free podcast. We have many written instructions and guidelines on the website which you can read to help support you with meditation.

— For a deeper experience of meditation, and to learn to meditate on your own without being guided, we recommend our Online Meditation Course. The structure of the course will help you to establish a regular routine of meditation and master the fundamentals of meditation, making for a deeper, richer experience. Consultations with website founders, Mary and Richard Maddux, provide personal support for your learning.

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Online Meditation Course

Learn to Meditate Easily and Naturally A four week course with guided meditations (mp3s) and written instructions helps you to discover your natural ability to meditate. You will be able to meditate along with the guided meditations from day one and by the end of four weeks will have all you need to continue meditating on your own.  Read about the course.

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Comments

66 Responses to “How to Meditate”

  1. Prashant Malik on October 12th, 2008 4:59 am

    Whenever during meditation I concentrate on my breath, I became very restless, i.e I begin to breath profusely as if I am doing any physical heavy work.
    Why this is happening?

  2. Mary on October 12th, 2008 9:15 am

    Hello Prashant,
    I’m not sure if I can answer this without knowing more about what type of meditation you are practicing and how you are practicing it, but one possibility is that you are concentrating too hard on the breath. Could it be that you are trying very hard to keep your attention on the breath? If you are making a great effort, it might cause the reaction you are talking about.

    Try listening to our Breath Awareness Meditation on our podcast and see if that helps. Don’t strain and work hard at concentrating on the breath. Just be very easy about it. It’s OK if the mind wanders from the breath. Try that meditation and if there is still a problem, let us know!

    There are a couple of possibilities

  3. Mike on December 30th, 2008 4:55 pm

    So many people talk about “Watching” your thoughts. I think this is hard to understand. No one really tells you how to watch you thoughts. Can you explain?

  4. Mary on December 30th, 2008 6:21 pm

    Hi Mike,
    Great question. I actually don’t like the phrase “watch your thoughts”. It’s not a helpful term in the way I do meditation. In fact, I don’t really see how it’s possible to watch your thoughts (in the way you would watch cars passing or clouds moving in the sky). Since it’s not a term that I find useful, I can’t really explain it to you!

    How to handle thoughts is always a key element of any meditation. I would find it more useful to say “ignore your thoughts” than “watch your thoughts”!

  5. Mike on December 30th, 2008 8:38 pm

    Interesting point on “ignoring thoughts” versus watching them. Although, wouldn’t ignoring thoughts be like suppressing them? Aren’t we to try to not either reject or follow thoughts, but make note of them and just let them be? I guess my question is more around negative thoughts and how to deal with them outside of meditation. I have been studying buddhism for several months and find this very difficult. I just came across your site and really enjoy the guided mediations.

    Thanks!

  6. Mary on December 31st, 2008 9:53 am

    Hi Mike,
    This is an interesting discussion for me. I don’t have a background in Buddhism, so I’m not the best person to consult if you are following that path. Often people compare my meditations to mindfulness, and I do think there’s much in common, but I’m coming to feel there are some subtle differences as well.

    By ignoring thoughts I don’t mean suppressing them. At the same time, I don’t think we need to “make note of them”. Again, that’s a term that I don’t find useful for the style of meditation I am teaching. I do sometimes talk about “noticing” thoughts and other experiences, but noticing is something that happens quite spontaneously. “Making note of” implies something you need to do something about thoughts. The meditation style I am using is about stopping doing when you notice rejecting or following. It’s about a letting go of doing.

    It’s a subtle but important difference. It’s also very difficult to find words to describe the process of meditation. For that reason, I don’t emphasize concepts and verbal descriptions of how to meditate (even though I have some on the website). I encourage people to listen to the guided meditations as the best way to experience meditation.

    As for negative thoughts outside of meditation — that’s a big subject! Briefly, it’s impossible not to have negative thoughts in my opinion. They come up. Then the question is how you handle them. This is such a big topic that I’ll give it some thought and write a post sometime soon.

    Thanks for your interesting questions!

  7. Billy McBay on January 13th, 2009 8:22 pm

    I truly enjoy your podcasts!

  8. Luis on March 29th, 2009 8:23 pm

    I enjoy your podcasts a great deal! Thank you!

  9. Mary on March 30th, 2009 8:53 am

    Billy and Luis, You are welcome!

  10. lynda on April 12th, 2009 8:39 am

    i just got done listening to you for the first time and i feel so relaxed. im going to bookmark this page for sure. thank you so very much for being on the web.

  11. Mary on April 12th, 2009 9:01 am

    You’re welcome, Lynda. Happy that you found us!

  12. Anne Davis on April 21st, 2009 8:25 pm

    Hi Mary,

    I stumbled upon your podcasts at just the right time several weeks ago (a repeating theme among others out there it seems!) and have finally had a chance to look around the website and I want to tell you it is WONDERFUL! Thank you for everything you are doing – I hope you continue for a very long time.

    I do have a question (probably many – but let’s start here) I was reading the thread of meditation about how you teach dealing with thoughts that enter your head during meditation. The conversation itself and the issues it raised were interesting in and of itself but something you said jumped out at me and brought my question to mind. You made reference to how your background is not in Buddhism and you went on to talk about subtle differences. And of course there are differences between different philosophies and the meditation style they teach (some subtle – some probably less so). I am wondering if you have any thoughts or opinions on whether its possible (or good or bad) to regularly switch between different styles. I am sure you will say everyone needs to find the manner of meditation that works best for them. :-) But I am wondering if there is harm in “cross-training” so to speak or if it is more important to have a solid routine and skill (not quite the right word) in one particular style?

    Wow – this got much more long winded than I intended.

    Thank you again so much!

    Anne

  13. Mary on April 22nd, 2009 9:11 am

    Hi Anne,
    Well, yes, you already said part of my answer for me — “I am sure you will say everyone needs to find the manner of meditation that works best for them. :-)

    That being said, I don’t think there’s any inherent harm in switching back and forth between styles. Different styles can be quite compatible, with different effects for different times. Bear in mind, though, that I approach meditation as a kind of self-exploration and self-discovery and I encourage people to trust their intuition.

    Thank you for this very interesting, thoughtful comment and great question! It’s an important question for many to explore on their journey with meditation.

  14. Friamin on June 3rd, 2009 7:56 pm

    I think you explained the idea of using different forms of meditation very well. Meditation is very personal and we need to find the form which has the most impact on our inner being. It is a matter of relying on our intuition and our sence of knowing what is right for us. What may work for 3 million Buddhists may not necessarily resonate with you.
    Well worth the read
    thanx

  15. Mary on June 4th, 2009 9:31 am

    Thanks for weighing in, Friamin. You are welcome!

  16. lohn newson on January 6th, 2010 4:59 am

    I am in pain every day and frequently it is severe. The medics have told me that apart from ever stonger painkillers theres nothing more they can do, I dont want to become a zombie. Ive looked at meditation in detail and i truly believe its my only option and yet im finding it very difficult to do, ive tried several techniques but im getting nowhere, my clinical psychologist has suggested Mindfullness;
    I would be deeply grateful for any advice.
    JOHN

  17. Mary on January 6th, 2010 10:14 am

    So sorry to hear about your pain, John. I’m not a Mindfulness teacher so can’t comment on that. Each person is different in terms of which meditations they will respond to. You are welcome to explore the guided meditations we have on our podcast. They are free. There’s one called Beyond Pain which may help. I’d suggesting starting with one of the beginning meditations mentioned on this page and when that feels easy, try the Beyond Pain meditation. There’s lots of things you can read on this site to support using these meditations, and you can consider our online course if you feel you resonate with our approach. Best wishes.

  18. Bob Gruber on February 27th, 2010 7:45 pm

    Thanks for the podcasts, they have become one of my favorite times during the day. You are so calming.

  19. Mary on February 28th, 2010 12:16 pm

    You are so welcome, Bob. Thanks for taking the time to comment!

  20. Janis Thompson on March 3rd, 2010 2:00 pm

    This is in response to John and his pain. I broke my ankle and after the doctors inserted two pins, two rods, and 12 screws, it was discovered I quickly become immune to pain killers. Lying awake at 3 AM after hours of excruciating pain, I used some Buddhist teaching and decided to become completely mindful of the pain. I wanted to be the pain. I began by determining exactly where it was located. Was it an inch inside the ankle? Was it on the right side more than the left? How could I describe it so that someone else could understand exactly where it was located? As I meditated on this, I realized the pain was lessening and at times completely disappearing. I felt the pain was like a little child who wanted someone to pay attention, and once that happened, it felt better. It took time but I eventually became the pain and realized it was neither good nor bad and needed to be embraced in order to be accepted. I also practiced Tonglen (you visualize taking on the suffering of others and giving your own happiness to others). I told myself I was experiencing this pain so a baby didn’t. That helped as I hated to think of a tiny baby in such debilitating pain. Now when I’m in pain, I think, “Oh, welcome pain. I’m hurting so that some baby isn’t.” I hope, John, you can work to embrace the pain and see what it has to teach you.

  21. laura on March 24th, 2010 7:26 am

    thank you so much for the podcasts i am new to meditation and enjoying it so much! i spent too much of my life worrying about thoughts but think i have finally learned to let them drift in and out without paying them too much attention! with your help and changing my own attitudes i think i could soon be the most relaxed person in the world! thank you again x

  22. Mary on March 24th, 2010 3:23 pm

    How wonderful that you are enjoying meditation so much! You are very welcome.

  23. Lydia on April 9th, 2010 9:37 am

    Hello there! Whenever I meditate, I experience a ‘spacing out’ or some kind of ‘transport’. I don’t really know what to call it, I just wonder if maybe you can help me figure out what it is. It’s like, I’m there, but I’m not THERE. Almost as if I take myself out of my body and put myself in a jar off on the side. I know, I’m crazy right? I’m there watching myself. It happens during the day as well, I don’t necessarily have to be meditating: just random occurrences, but it’s most prevalent when I’m relaxed and I let my mind wander. I don’t use any specific form of meditation, I just concentrate on breathing in&out and not focusing on any thoughts that swirl around in my head! Anyway, I’m not really worried about it, just curious.
    :)
    Thanks a bunch!

  24. Mary on April 9th, 2010 4:44 pm

    Hi Lydia,
    It sounds to me like a description of what I would call a “meditative state”. Usually our attention is focused on something and the mind is, in a sense, completely caught up in that focus. In meditation, the attention relaxes so that the mind is no longer engaged in the same way with perceptions and thoughts. Your awareness, which is usually bound up in thoughts or perceptions, becomes the main identification of the mind, rather than thoughts. Pure awareness dominates.

    This is a great question and I hope to devote a blog post to it soon.

  25. Teri Ching on May 4th, 2010 4:57 pm

    Being Fully Present….I heard this in your podcasts..and I’m not sure what that really means..paying attention more..Thanks Teri

  26. Mary on May 5th, 2010 9:49 am

    Hi Teri, Usually we think of “being fully present” as being aware of what is going on in the moment — of what is happening around us and within us — as opposed to being caught up in thoughts. When I use phrases like that in the meditation, they are just reminders to the mind to let go. Nothing that I say is an instruction that’s meant to be followed in a precise way. If I use that phrase it doesn’t really mean “pay more attention”. Phrases like that are just gentle prompts to give the mind the signal to let go of thoughts.

    It’s best when listening to my meditations to not be concerned about the meaning of what I am saying. The meditations are to help you get beyond meaning and let the mind relax. Hope this helps.

  27. Dennis on August 11th, 2010 11:00 am

    I don’t know if other people have said the same thing but your guided meditations have helped me a great deal with my chronic back and sciatic pain. I’ve read somewhere that our nervous system can sometimes go haywire and can have a hard time getting our bodies back to a relax state causing sleep and digestion problems and muscle pains. I think this is what’s happening to me. I’ve gone through a lot of treatments that have not worked but your guided meditations have given me hope. Thanks

  28. Mary on August 12th, 2010 8:41 am

    Dennis, relaxation is the key to so many things. A relaxed body and mind function well and allow for healing. The key will be to keep using the meditations regularly, at least once a day. We wish you well!

  29. Irene on August 17th, 2010 5:51 am

    Hello Mary. I know your voice very well now. Sometimes I use your deep relaxation meditation to help me to sleep. I suffer from arthritis and have also used your pain meditation. I purchased the iPhone app and recently purchased the one for anxiety. I have not been following this particular one regularly but I am very much enjoying your meditations. I have experience of Buddhist meditation practices too though I am not involved with any organised religion. I really enjoy the simplicity of your meditations and have found them really helpful. I have now tried a number of them and will work my way through others when they seem the most appropriate. Thanks.

  30. Mary on August 17th, 2010 9:26 am

    You are welcome, Irene. Glad you’re enjoying the meditations!

  31. Kim on October 6th, 2010 9:07 am

    I have been doing some inner work on myself for about a year now. It’s only recently that I’ve been meditating and have found this very helpful with my journey. I am so grateful to you for your podcasts. Thank you so much!

  32. Mary on October 7th, 2010 9:41 am

    Kim, you are so welcome. It is inspiring to hear you are on this journey. Best wishes!

  33. Karen on April 16th, 2011 4:40 am

    I Was having a hard time sleeping. When I did sleep I rarely dreamed. I found your podcast and tried it out. I’ve been going to bed earlier so I can quite my mind before I try to go to sleep. Here’s the thing….I fall asleep before they end and dream like never before. I don’t sleep through the night though. When I wake up I start a new meditation to go back to sleep. Is that bad? Should this be used to sleep? I think I really love this stuff. I like the new addition of just music too.
    Thanks
    K

  34. Mary on April 16th, 2011 8:24 am

    Karen, everyone is so different and the meditations affect them differently, so you need to experiment to see what works for you. Chances are the intense dreaming and waking up in the night would be temporary, but maybe not. Meditating right before bed could be too stimulating in some ways for you, and you might want to listen to the meditation earlier, say at the beginning of the evening, to unwind earlier on. It could also be that some meditations would work better for you for sleep than others. You need to experiment. And also, check how you feel during the day. See if you feel rested when you wake up with all the dreaming and waking up during the night. If you feel grounded and rested during the day, it may work to continue as you are.

  35. Lucy on June 22nd, 2011 8:47 pm

    I have been listening to your podcasts for about 2 years… I absolutely love them… I have difficulty fully meditating on my own, but find your guided meditations helpful as I listen to them (nearly every day), and also recalling them throughout my day to stay present and calm in any situation.

    Your voice, your choice of words, and your timing are soothing and powerful at the same time. I’ve found other guided meditations where the voice is almost scary or scolding. You have a gift. Thank you for sharing it.

    PEACE + LOVE

  36. Mary on June 23rd, 2011 8:47 am

    Thank you for your kind words, Lucy. I’m so glad the meditations are working for you. You are very welcome.

  37. Victoria on July 20th, 2011 11:12 am

    QUESTION FOR MARY: I have been trying to learn/practice meditation for the past few months. I wondered if you could help me to understand something that occurs when i start to get to a certain depth in the meditation process i suddenly become intensely afraid that someone (or a presence) is in the room with me. It does not feel like a positive or friendly presence, but somehow menacing and fearful. It immediately brings me out of the depth i have achieved and i either abandon the session or go to a shallower level. It also creates anxiety that leaves me fearful of reentering the meditative state. I desperately want to go deeper to seek spiritual understanding and purpose, but i fear i will never get there if i cannot overcome this. Any ideas, advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for you wonderful apps, podcasts and tools you offer to help people learn this simple, yet difficult process.

  38. Mary on July 20th, 2011 1:59 pm

    Victoria, it’s difficult to respond to this through a couple comments. It would be ideal if you had a meditation teacher you could talk with so that there could be some back and forth. I will, however, respond with what a possibility of what is happening and you can see if it rings true for you. My guess is that in the deep relaxation of meditation, some underlying anxiety comes up. When the anxiety is felt, the mind searches for a cause and, in your case, concludes there is something menacing present. We do have an iPhone (also Android) app specifically for anxiety which might help you to deal with anxiety. On the other hand, it could be that something is surfacing that needs attention, something from the past that might be best handled with counseling. It’s really hard to say. If you can, try working with the app first (or you can get the At Ease program and use it on this website). Then, if that doesn’t help, look further. Again, just see if this line of thinking rings true for you. Best wishes.

  39. Debbie on August 5th, 2011 2:06 pm

    I have been suffering from what was initially thought to be panic attacks, I have a psychiatrist and way too much meds. Now they think it might be hyperventilating or asthma. The most recent doc. thinks It is none of the above and that I am way too anxious and stressed, and previously traumatic things that have happened. He recommends breathing properly.. didn’t know there was a certain way to breath, but i have been doing it wrong. He wants me also to do meditation, I can not find any place around here that offers that. He basicallly said the only pill i need is a “chill pill”. So I am looking for help here.

  40. Mary on August 5th, 2011 2:14 pm

    Debbie, we have over 40 guided meditations you can listen to and download for free from our Meditation Oasis Podcast. You’ll find them on the Listen to Our Podcast page or on iTunes. Try meditating along with those. Try a few different ones and see which work best for you. If this works well for you, you might want to purchase our At Ease — Relief from Anxiety & Worry program (also available as an iPhone/iPad/Android app). That is a more intensive approach to anxiety. Best wishes.

  41. Chayya on November 17th, 2011 3:50 am

    Dear,

    Its wonderful and very inspiring to read how you are helping people in there difficult times. I also want to ask something. I started doing meditation last year after the love of my life passed away in an accident. The tragedy has struck me so hard that inspite of doing meditation I am not able to come out of it. I am not able to forgive myself for the bad things I did and said to him. I am unable to find a purpose in my life. I just don’t want to move ahead in my life but I am doing so for my family.
    In my meditation I try to concentrate on a point of light (image which I try to make in my mind) and try to convince myself that I am a soul with good qualities and then i try to connect to God. I have grown very sceptical about my future and I keep searching him everywhere…..when I know deep within that he is not going to come back. Kindly help me so that I can come out of this grim situation.

  42. Mary on November 17th, 2011 2:23 pm

    Chayya, we are sorry for your loss and know this is very painful. We have some information on grief on our other website. It may help to understand more about the grief process and also we recommend getting some grief counseling or joining a grief support group. Here’s the link the to information — http://heartofhealing.net/healing/grief/

  43. Kathy on November 18th, 2011 12:49 am

    I have trouble meditating in general. I can relax completely but then the slightest things disturb me. Things like my eyelids fluttering or an itch. My limbs become restless. Can you advise any strategy to help deal with that so I can stay in that relaxed state?

  44. Mary on November 18th, 2011 9:56 am

    Kathy, the trick is to let it be OK of your eyelids flutter or you feel restless. And you can go ahead and scratch that itch. Meditation doesn’t mean staying perfectly still. The problem comes when we resist what is going on.

  45. Cristiecatt on December 2nd, 2011 5:14 am

    Hello, I’ve only been using these meditations for a week and have a similar experience as Victoria. Though I’m probably not going very ‘deep’ yet, I’m feeling relaxed and great but then get an anxious feeling like there might be something in the room and so open my eyes.
    I’m not normally a very anxious person. I wonder if it is something to do with ‘letting my guard down’ or not being used to being very relaxed so my mind is saying hey … something could be out there but yr not paying attention… Protect yourself!
    Maybe I need to do the trust meditation more often!

  46. Mary on December 2nd, 2011 10:19 am

    Cristlecatt, often in our busyness, we are not aware of feelings that are under the surface, and then when we meditate those feelings come to the fore. Please read the reply I made to Victoria as it would be relevant for you. It’s certainly fine to open your eyes in meditation if you become uncomfortable like that. That will bring you out of the relaxation a bit.

  47. Guy on December 9th, 2011 12:48 pm

    Mary,I have been trying to learn and practice meditation for a couple of months now. It started out pretty well and I felt pleased with progress, however, I am stumbling now … or at least it feels that was, something does not feel right. Lately when meditating (evenings), regardless if by myself or listening to a guided meditation, it feels like I am reaching a fairly deep level but have sometimes found myself falling into a deep sleep from which I wake very rested, usually about 4.30 am (I start meditating at 9 pm and have no idea when I actualize fall asleep). I am comfortable with and like the feeling of deep rest I awaken with but can hardly remember back to the moment I closed my eyes and started the meditation. This leaves me with a sense of incompleteness and having done something wrong along the way and I cannot think of an explanation. Am I doing something wrong? What is it? I also feel I have maybe missed a learning point on the way on meditation itself. Thank you for your feedback.

  48. Mary on December 10th, 2011 1:43 pm

    Guy, it sounds like you are having a very good experience with meditation, and I don’t think falling asleep in meditation is a problem. In the deep rest of meditation, the body takes what it needs. If it needs sleep, you may fall asleep. Perhaps there is a backlog of fatigue or you weren’t well enough rested. When you fall asleep when deep in meditation, the sleep is especially deep snd restorative. It’s a blessing to be getting such a deep rest. Chances are this will pass as you get more rested. Or, if you are meditating late in the evening, your body may simply be ready for sleep. If you don’t want this to happen, try meditating earlier.

  49. Guy on December 14th, 2011 11:53 am

    Thank you!

  50. Kim on July 23rd, 2012 10:45 am

    Hi Mary
    A very general question that I could not find the answer to on the homepage which ones do you recommend for a beginner like myself.
    Many thanks for making the podcasts available. Regards Kim

  51. Mary on July 23rd, 2012 12:08 pm

    Kim, we have a page that gives some suggestions — How to Get the Most Out of Our Podcast.

  52. Frank on June 27th, 2013 10:27 am

    I just ant to thank you for introducing me to the world of meditation – it has helped me a lot!

  53. Mary on June 27th, 2013 10:57 am

    I’m so glad to hear that, Frank. You are welcome!

  54. Jodi on August 17th, 2013 4:12 am

    I just wanted to say thank you. I stumbled across your meditations when I was at a pretty low point in my life and I made them part of my daily routine. Now that I am feeling much happier with where I am in life, I still use your meditations. Some nights I can’t wait until bedtime so I can put my headphones on and listen to your wonderful podcasts!!

  55. Mary on August 17th, 2013 1:31 pm

    Jodi, How fortunate that you made Meditation a regular part of your life! We are so pleased that we are able to play a part in that and we wish you all the best!

  56. ashlesha singh on September 11th, 2013 11:44 am

    hi I m 24 years old and have very low concentration level but I had very high level of concentration 10 years before but at the age of 14 I got attracted with a guy and from very that time I stared loosing my concentration as I was a very brilliant student 10 years before due to my high level of concentration now I am an average student . lowing of concentration is like venom in my life, studies and career. whenever I talk to other guys they come in my imagination when I study whereby I unable to give full attention and focus to my studies. I don’t know why this is so? but some people say that my problem can be solved by meditation that’s why I m telling u all this . really meditation can solve my concentration related problems? if yes then what I have to do and what to not ? in how much time I will be like 10 years earlier? waiting for ur answer plz send soon. I will be grateful to u throughout my life.

  57. Mary on September 11th, 2013 2:44 pm

    Ashlesha, it’s possible that meditation could help, but no one can know that for sure. I would recommend, though, that you find a good counsellor to discuss this. It sounds like you are a student, and you could talk about this with a school counsellor. Best wishes.

  58. ashlesha singh on September 12th, 2013 5:25 am

    ok thanks for the advice but I have heard that meditation increases brain power memory & concentration . it is saying so in our indian tradition that meditation makes a man extraordinary if it is done regular. what say ?

  59. Mary on September 12th, 2013 9:58 am

    ashlesha, there are many different styles of meditation. Some have been shown to have great benefits. Since you are from the Indian tradition and have faith in that, it would make sense for you to seek the guidance of a teacher in that tradition.

  60. srinivas on September 20th, 2013 12:46 am

    namaste

  61. Crystal on February 9th, 2014 7:59 am

    I LOVE these podcasts, they’re very soothing and the help me focus my energies on the tasks I’m trying to procure. I recently devoted my life to Wicca and The Goddess, and this helps me to feel more open to Her presence! Thank You!!

  62. Mary on February 9th, 2014 10:45 am

    You are so welcome, Crystal. I’m so glad the meditations have helped you focus and feel more open!

  63. Neil on April 12th, 2014 12:14 am

    I enjoy listening to your podcasts before bed to help me unwind & relax. I feel like a different person afterwards, much calmer and more serene. Thanks so much.

  64. Mary on April 12th, 2014 9:38 am

    Neil, you are very welcome. It’s great to hear that the meditations are helping so much! Thanks for letting us know.

  65. Lacey on May 21st, 2014 9:17 pm

    Mary,
    I found your podcast 2 years back and I want you to know how much it has helped me. I loved the deep rest meditation the most, and it’s the first one I listened to. Your voice is so soothing! These podcast helped me through my painful and long pregnancy. They now help we when I need to find patience and when my anxiety is just to much to handle. Being a mother is the hardest but most rewarding job ever, and I’m not sure how I would get through day to day life without you! Thanks so very much for making the podcast

    Sincerely , lacey

  66. Mary on May 22nd, 2014 10:04 am

    You are so welcome, Lacey. It’s so inspiring to hear from you and know how much the podcast is helping. Wishing you well in the days ahead.

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