Comments on: Beyond Pain Guided Meditation http://www.meditationoasis.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/ Companion to the Meditation Oasis Podcast Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:44:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mary http://www.meditationoasis.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/comment-page-1/#comment-23809 Mary Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:33:04 +0000 http://meditationoasis.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/#comment-23809 Your words are so moving, Rolf. I am so sorry you have this pain. It has to be one of the hardest things to live with. We couldn't be more pleased - hearing that the meditation is helping. I know that having even the smallest respite from the pain can make a world of difference. I hope I will be able to do more meditations for pain in the future. Your words are so moving, Rolf. I am so sorry you have this pain. It has to be one of the hardest things to live with. We couldn’t be more pleased – hearing that the meditation is helping. I know that having even the smallest respite from the pain can make a world of difference. I hope I will be able to do more meditations for pain in the future.

]]> By: Rolf http://www.meditationoasis.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/comment-page-1/#comment-23805 Rolf Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:53:17 +0000 http://meditationoasis.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/#comment-23805 Dear Mary, I suffer from one of the worst (if not the worst) forms of Chronic Neurophatic Pain conditions that exists, called Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (CRPS), also known in the past as Reflex Symphatetic Reflex Distrophy (RSD). I have it for more than 10 years now and underwent dozens of Surgeries, Pain Management procedures, implants of pain devices (Spinal Cord Stimulator, Pain Pump's), multiple heavy drugs, etc... Through all of this pure, indescribable, constant pain hellish nightmare, it is easy for us to loose hope, be depressed, anxious, angry, fearful, and desperate for some form of relief, even if for just a little while.... Well, dear Mary, your meditation on pain is the only thing I currently know that does that for me these days. I'm so dependent on your voice and words to keep me calm, that I even have it sometimes on a "repeat mode" on my player, just so it won't go away, for my pain doesn't either. The kindness of your rich and wise spirit is so evident in the way you are able to really capture what it feels like to be in constant pain. Your standard advice for us to "let go off it..." is precious and through your voice it is not only soothing, but it really comes with a spiritual, caring and healing endorsement. It is wonderful, simply wonderful. Please, please, keep this line of meditation for I know many people with chronic pain which could also benefit from your meditation, much more than from the traditional treatment options from medicine. Anything helps us! God bless you (and Richard too)! Dear Mary,

I suffer from one of the worst (if not the worst) forms of Chronic Neurophatic Pain conditions that exists, called Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (CRPS), also known in the past as Reflex Symphatetic Reflex Distrophy (RSD). I have it for more than 10 years now and underwent dozens of Surgeries, Pain Management procedures, implants of pain devices (Spinal Cord Stimulator, Pain Pump’s), multiple heavy drugs, etc…

Through all of this pure, indescribable, constant pain hellish nightmare, it is easy for us to loose hope, be depressed, anxious, angry, fearful, and desperate for some form of relief, even if for just a little while…. Well, dear Mary, your meditation on pain is the only thing I currently know that does that for me these days. I’m so dependent on your voice and words to keep me calm, that I even have it sometimes on a “repeat mode” on my player, just so it won’t go away, for my pain doesn’t either. The kindness of your rich and wise spirit is so evident in the way you are able to really capture what it feels like to be in constant pain. Your standard advice for us to “let go off it…” is precious and through your voice it is not only soothing, but it really comes with a spiritual, caring and healing endorsement. It is wonderful, simply wonderful.

Please, please, keep this line of meditation for I know many people with chronic pain which could also benefit from your meditation, much more than from the traditional treatment options from medicine. Anything helps us!

God bless you (and Richard too)!

]]> By: Mary http://www.meditationoasis.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/comment-page-1/#comment-18411 Mary Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:18:16 +0000 http://meditationoasis.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/#comment-18411 Thank you so much, Mr. E, for this comment. You wrote very beautifully about some things I have been experiencing lately with pain. There are ways of "making friends" with pain and having a whole different relationship with it that eliminates so much suffering. I think I will be writing about this soon. Best wishes. Thank you so much, Mr. E, for this comment. You wrote very beautifully about some things I have been experiencing lately with pain. There are ways of “making friends” with pain and having a whole different relationship with it that eliminates so much suffering. I think I will be writing about this soon. Best wishes.

]]> By: Mr. E http://www.meditationoasis.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/comment-page-1/#comment-18410 Mr. E Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:00:55 +0000 http://meditationoasis.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/#comment-18410 The feeling of pain -being quite different from the experience of injury- It seems to me, is a "thing" that one may benefit through coming to terms with. Being able to experience what "IS" OTHER THAN the all consuming "pain" that is in the forefront of our consciousness, and to be aware of that which IS "while" pain is being experienced may be quite empowering. As a martial artist benefits from becoming graceful at falling, one who chooses to experience physical pain gracefully (NOT Injury!) possibly stands to benefit not only from acclimating the self to this condition, but most importantly connecting one's understanding to the reality that pain only hurts while it hurts -it will pass or you can simply endure it- and most profoundly that EVERYTHING beautiful still IS... while experience this small -though quite compelling- slice of life. I kneel in seiza while praying every day. It is painful. I believe that this practice has helped me to focus beyond this pain on to my intention. I hope that it had also facilitated my ability to experience truth beyond pain that I do not control in life... emotional pain for instance. through practice I have been able to see the rest of life beyond my "overwhelming grief". Perhaps the sublime experience reported in formal religion's "submitting", "relinquishing", and "acting with faith" includes what is analogous to not the endurance, but the passing beyond the experience of pain. Perhaps simply accepting the peace and love that is the Self -enlightenment- is kind of like accepting the loveliness of life that does so exist... even when we are in pain. ...or not. [Pain is. You choose. Make good choices. Never hurt yourself or another! It is EZ to have an unhealthy relationship with pain. It can serve as a distraction -that is never good.] The feeling of pain -being quite different from the experience of injury- It seems to me, is a “thing” that one may benefit through coming to terms with. Being able to experience what “IS” OTHER THAN the all consuming “pain” that is in the forefront of our consciousness, and to be aware of that which IS “while” pain is being experienced may be quite empowering. As a martial artist benefits from becoming graceful at falling, one who chooses to experience physical pain gracefully (NOT Injury!) possibly stands to benefit not only from acclimating the self to this condition, but most importantly connecting one’s understanding to the reality that pain only hurts while it hurts -it will pass or you can simply endure it- and most profoundly that EVERYTHING beautiful still IS… while experience this small -though quite compelling- slice of life. I kneel in seiza while praying every day. It is painful. I believe that this practice has helped me to focus beyond this pain on to my intention. I hope that it had also facilitated my ability to experience truth beyond pain that I do not control in life… emotional pain for instance. through practice I have been able to see the rest of life beyond my “overwhelming grief”. Perhaps the sublime experience reported in formal religion’s “submitting”, “relinquishing”, and “acting with faith” includes what is analogous to not the endurance, but the passing beyond the experience of pain. Perhaps simply accepting the peace and love that is the Self -enlightenment- is kind of like accepting the loveliness of life that does so exist… even when we are in pain. …or not. [Pain is. You choose. Make good choices. Never hurt yourself or another! It is EZ to have an unhealthy relationship with pain. It can serve as a distraction -that is never good.]

]]> By: Mary http://www.meditationoasis.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/comment-page-1/#comment-5401 Mary Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:49:10 +0000 http://meditationoasis.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/#comment-5401 You are welcome, Carla. I don't know why you'd have trouble listening to that meditation when you can hear the others. You should be able to click on the link on our <a href="http://www.meditationoasis.com/podcast/listen-to-podcast/" rel="nofollow">podcast listening page</a> and hear it. You can also hear it on iTunes -- anyone can download iTunes onto their computer and listen to podcasts there. You are welcome, Carla.

I don’t know why you’d have trouble listening to that meditation when you can hear the others. You should be able to click on the link on our podcast listening page and hear it. You can also hear it on iTunes — anyone can download iTunes onto their computer and listen to podcasts there.

]]> By: Carla http://www.meditationoasis.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/comment-page-1/#comment-5394 Carla Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:58:22 +0000 http://meditationoasis.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/#comment-5394 I have read your blog about the beyond pain meditation and would love to hear it but am unsure of how to play it. What do I press. The other meditations I have been able to press the red printing. Thank you for the ones I have listened to, they are truly beautiful. I have read your blog about the beyond pain meditation and would love to hear it but am unsure of how to play it. What do I press. The other meditations I have been able to press the red printing. Thank you for the ones I have listened to, they are truly beautiful.

]]> By: Mary http://www.meditationoasis.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/comment-page-1/#comment-3776 Mary Sat, 23 May 2009 16:47:26 +0000 http://meditationoasis.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/#comment-3776 You are welcome, Kim. I'm pleased the meditation helped! You are welcome, Kim. I’m pleased the meditation helped!

]]> By: Kim http://www.meditationoasis.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/comment-page-1/#comment-3767 Kim Sat, 23 May 2009 04:24:15 +0000 http://meditationoasis.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/#comment-3767 Hello, I am just writing to express how grateful I am to have found your podcast. I have the subscription and found myself trying to get some rest in the midst of a migraine, and found this specific edition. I listened to it and was able to get some sleep and feel better. Thank you for providing this, thank you so much. Hello,

I am just writing to express how grateful I am to have found your podcast. I have the subscription and found myself trying to get some rest in the midst of a migraine, and found this specific edition. I listened to it and was able to get some sleep and feel better.

Thank you for providing this, thank you so much.

]]> By: Mary http://www.meditationoasis.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/comment-page-1/#comment-2910 Mary Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:44:32 +0000 http://meditationoasis.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/#comment-2910 Thank you for taking the time to share your experience, Julia. It's amazing how much our emotions can affect how we experience pain and this is a really clear example of that. So glad it helped. You are welcome. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience, Julia. It’s amazing how much our emotions can affect how we experience pain and this is a really clear example of that. So glad it helped. You are welcome.

]]> By: Julia http://www.meditationoasis.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/comment-page-1/#comment-2894 Julia Sat, 18 Apr 2009 06:03:16 +0000 http://meditationoasis.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/beyond-pain-guided-meditation/#comment-2894 This was recommended to me by a friend in Ireland and I thought I would give it a go even though I don't have anything really awful to live with just an injury from a household accident that is taking a while to clear up on my knee and is still painful. I did this meditation and along with the other responses here, a real load of anger came up. I was brimming up with tears and this was connected with something that was happening at the time of the accident but is technically unrelated. I had not made a conscious connection and had forgotten about it but there it was, large as life. I released it as you suggested and suddenly everything changed, the pain became simple stiffness and slight discomfort. The issue went into a better perspective and I feel great. I am really very grateful to you for this. Blessing on you. Julia This was recommended to me by a friend in Ireland and I thought I would give it a go even though I don’t have anything really awful to live with just an injury from a household accident that is taking a while to clear up on my knee and is still painful. I did this meditation and along with the other responses here, a real load of anger came up. I was brimming up with tears and this was connected with something that was happening at the time of the accident but is technically unrelated. I had not made a conscious connection and had forgotten about it but there it was, large as life. I released it as you suggested and suddenly everything changed, the pain became simple stiffness and slight discomfort. The issue went into a better perspective and I feel great. I am really very grateful to you for this. Blessing on you.
Julia

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